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KV Prasad Jun 13, 2022, 06:35 AM IST (Published)

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Information technology firm HCL Technologies expects to get back to the pre-COVID levels by March 2021, said C Vijayakumar, President and CEO of the company. “We expect to get back to the pre-COVID levels in reported terms by March if not earlier. Even assuming the lower end of growth, we will be close to last …

Information technology firm HCL Technologies expects to get back to the pre-COVID levels by March 2021, said C Vijayakumar, President and CEO of the company.

“We expect to get back to the pre-COVID levels in reported terms by March if not earlier. Even assuming the lower end of growth, we will be close to last year’s numbers on a reported currency basis,” Vijayakumar said in an interview with CNBC-TV18. According to him, given the pace of pick-up, FY22 will be a normal year for the company.

The COVID-19 pandemic has put to test all of corporate India. And Indian IT, which has seen several headwinds over the last decade, is no exception. HCL Tech has been one of the companies that survived the tide.

The company recently released its mid-quarter update and outlined that it expects to do better than the earlier forecast. In Q1, it had said that its revenue growth in constant currency terms will be between 1.5-2.5 percent. With a pick up in Q2, it now expects Q2 revenues to grow by 3.5 percent. The reason is pent-up demand and deals that were in transition flowing in this quarter.

“We had some good bookings in the two quarters prior to COVID. Some deals that were signed earlier were in transition and are flowing into the current quarter. We are seeing pent-up demand in some projects that were kept on hold,” he said.

Vijayakumar admits that the COVID-19 pandemic has been a tailwind for tech adoption by clients. And that’s the opportunity that, he says, has him excited. According to Vijayakumar, two broad things give the company confidence in terms of the road ahead —  cost transformation and digital transformation

“Two broad themes are giving us confidence for not just right now but post COVID as well. One is cost transformation. The need for cost transformation and the need for enterprises to variablize their cost structures is driving some segments. The second is that almost all businesses are looking at several aspects of digital transformation. The retail segment, for instance, some clients are looking at modernizing their e-commerce infrastructure. A lot of customers that have a retail presence are strengthening their digital channels,” said Vijayakumar.

Vijayakumar has been a part of HCL Tech since 1994. Over the years he held several ranks and in 2016, he finally took over as the CEO. Since his appointment, HCL Tech has grown at a CAGR of 12.4 percent vs the industry average of about 7.4 percent.

“Simple strategy and good execution have been drivers for differentiated growth,” he says.

“We have executed a smooth business mix transition from traditional services to new tech and digital services. Our next-gen offering (mode 2) has grown 25 percent CAGR over 4 years. We have built a strong platform for software products business which has grown over 60 percent in that period. Our mode 2 and 3 combined revenues are now at almost 35 percent of overall revenues. We have seen continued market leadership in our chosen segments. All of these are showing industry-leading growth in the last 4 years,” explained Vijayakumar.

After being appointed the CEO, he had restructured the business of HCL Tech into 3 segments – Mode 1, 2, 3. Mode 1 is traditional services, Mode 2 digital and new tech services, and Mode 3 for platform and products.

Vijayakumar believes the strategy has helped them steer the company through the pandemic and its ripple effects. “We have a differentiated mix and a bigger total addressable market opportunity. The investments made in the last 2 years have helped. Current spending in IT, business services, engineering & R&D is at $2.5 trillion. We expect this to go to $3.5 trillion. We believe that we are in a position to take this market opportunity of $1 trillion. We are definitely in a better position today than we were a few years ago,” he says.

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Last 30 years have demonstrated that India is capable of changing policy, says Montek Singh Ahluwalia

In India, policymaking has been a complex process. It cannot be run by any one institution or person is the word coming in from former deputy chairman of Planning Commission, Montek Singh Ahluwalia.

“India being a democracy, it requires change of policy in the context of a consensus of the direction in which we need to go. That consensus has to be built by the political leadership,” he said in an interview with CNBC-TV18’s Shereen Bhan.

“It is also true that even when there is a broad consensus, there will always be opposition. Therefore, the political process has to continue even after announcing the intention, maybe moderating the reforms, so that you limit the unintended negative effects etc and that is what makes it a gradualist process,” he further said.

According to him, what has been demonstrated in the last 30 years is that India is capable of changing policy. That is what happened in 1991. The need to rethink was there in 1980s but what 1991 did was completely change the direction of policy. At the same time, politically, it was very difficult for the Congress party to say that they are changing direction so they kept emphasizing continuity, which was fine because politically they found it easy, he said,  while discussing the nuances of his book ‘Backstage: The Story behind India’s High Growth Years’.

Ahluwalia has been an integral part of India’s tryst with economic reforms, pre-1991 and post 1991 as well. He negotiated for India with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and spent almost a decade as deputy chairman of the Planning Commission.

Sharing his views on reform by stealth, Ahluwalia said, “There is a difference  that I point out in the book between gradualism – which says look we are going to make a big change but to minimise disruption, the change is going to be spelt out over a period. In a way that is what former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh did in 1991, in the matter of tax reforms, in the matter of financial sector reforms. He said, we have to do the thing differently and we are going to take some time.”

“The other is that you just point that we are going to do this but don’t specify over what time period, you just do it when it is possible. I call that an opportunistic approach. A third view is that you don’t even spell out why we need to change, you just change when it is possible and I call that reform by stealth.”

According to him, there is nothing wrong with gradualism. “We did have some gradualism, a lot of it was opportunistic but then in due course the attraction of reform by stealth crept in. So, you announce certain programmes and slogans but you don’t necessarily act in exact accordance with those slogans and that is unfortunate. We are now in a much more complex position than we were in 1991,” he stated.

“The economic problem in 1991 was very simple, the economy was not very complex, it wasn’t open and was overregulated. So getting rid of those regulations was a no-brainer,” he said, adding that even if we took a little longer, it was clearly the right thing to do.

“Today the issue is not a simple one of no regulations versus regulations; it is handling an economy, which has become more complex, which is natural because it has now moved into a middle income status rather than lower income. Technology is changing fast, the economy is much more open and globalised and we also want to attract foreign investment,” he added.

“So, how you handle these things in a manner, which signals to people that the basic elements of policy are continuing and that we do want to encourage the private sector  because it is going to be a private sector led development. Therefore, policy is going to be conducive to private investment and conducive to integration with the global economy, a very difficult thing to do because the sort of people who push for private investment, very often also push for protectionism, which is a wrong thing to do,” he noted.

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Infosys’ Salil Parekh explains how cloud ecosystems are being built across the globe on Indian model

KV Prasad Jun 13, 2022, 06:35 AM IST (Published)

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Infosys managing director and chief executive officer Salil Parekh on Wednesday said  there are a lot of players which are now building cloud ecosystems with the way Indian companies started to build with different companies. Parekh said: “One of the things that we start to see is in this area of cloud – there are …

Infosys managing director and chief executive officer Salil Parekh on Wednesday said  there are a lot of players which are now building cloud ecosystems with the way Indian companies started to build with different companies.

Parekh said: “One of the things that we start to see is in this area of cloud – there are lot of players who build cloud ecosystems with the way we have started to build within India with different companies, the way to switch between clouds, the way to create cloud independent growth scenario’s that is quite innovative.”

“Each of the companies here, many of the company’s in the audience are doing that today and we are seeing that across all over client base and we see there is a huge amount of respect that clients have for that level of innovation that many of these companies bring to those clients.”

Parekh said Indian companies are now at a stage where globally technology has become so relevant and the critical mass that collectively India has, all of the companies here, which are driving this change.

“So we are absolutely at the forefront of the change and the good news is there is so much new that is going on in what people are calling digital transformation and that is driving all of the change that we are putting in place. So it is a hugely positive optimistic view of the next 10 years.”

Rishad Premji Chairman of Wipro, said. “I think two things are happening. One is you have young companies that are becoming true product companies coming out of India and it is still early days but I think that is happening and that is the challenge we keep getting which is – is India truly becoming an innovation hub if we don’t have world-class companies coming out of India which I think is changing.”

“For Wipro, our philosophy is more how do we leverage products and services in a combined manner, unlikely that we will become a product company or have large scale IT that we sell independently but how do we combine products and services and take productised services or business process as a service. That is the journey we are on but the journeys could be different for different stakeholders.”

Indian companies are going to break the idea of Indian companies versus global companies. The reality is some of the global companies today have more people in India than some of ours have here, Premji said.

“So the concept is not about whether you are global or Indian, the reality is we are all multi-national companies.”

Indian companies began with Indian heritage, so they can have more Indian talent compared to global companies, he said.

“I think that philosophy is completely changed. The other thing that has changed is it is not only technology companies that have a presence here, it is actually customers and end enterprises we were talking about earlier.”

“I was talking with a customer earlier who is a large global bank and they have more people here, they are building a talent base here not for cost and quality but for strategic differentiation.”

“So they would tell you don’t walk our corridors of London and New York to get business, walk our corridors of Hyderabad, Chennai, Mumbai and Pune.”

So the philosophy has changed dramatically, he added. “So I would not pile Indian companies and global companies separately because we are all leveraging a very similar talent base which is a very powerful and qualified talent base.”

Rajesh Gopinathan MD & CEO of TCS, said: “Next decade is going to be about continuing to transform ourselves. We have had a tremendous journey over the last 20 years, many of the stalwarts are here.”

“We acknowledge the 20 years of participation of NASSCOM here. If you look at it what we have done is, we have built up an enviable talent pool in this country.”

“If you think back over a century kind of basis what industrialisation did to Europe, technology is doing that to India and the same role that Europe had in industrialisation from a global perspective India is at the cusp of making that kind of an impact to the world as we look at the next decade.”

“So we are in a phenomenal position today compared to where we were when we started this century and it is up to us to reimagine where we can use this talent and this opportunity to drive the next ten years.”

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Budget 2020: Nobel laureates Abhijit Banerjee and Esther Duflo bat for wealth tax

Abhijit Banerjee, Esther Duflo

They are the first husband and wife duo to win a Nobel Prize for Economics. Professor Esther Duflo and Professor Abhijit Banerjee along with Michael Kramer won the Nobel Prize for their path-breaking work on developmental economics and poverty alleviation.

In an exclusive interaction with CNBC-TV18’s Shereen Bhan, both expressed a belief that the super-rich need to be taxed more.

Their prescription to fight the slowdown is what can be called “quiet economics” work that is detailed and solution-oriented with the emphasis on causality as opposed to mere economic forecasting.

Both Esther Duflo and Abhijit Banerjee are steadfast in advocating for “pragmatic welfare schemes” even as the world has made significant progress in poverty alleviation. What are the lessons for India from their “experimental work” on eradicating poverty? And with growth set to slow down to an 11-year low, what can we do to get back on track?

Speaking about wealth tax, Duflo said, “This is really a story like an elephant where if you look at the poorest people in the world, their income has gone up quite a bit during the last 3 decades; so that is the back of the elephant. However, if you are looking at the richest people in the world, their income has gone up even more. So it is the trunk of the elephant. So, these two worlds exist. The problem is that anybody in between has been squeezed in.”

“What we need to do in the future is to preserve the gains for the poorest, make sure that it continues because they are still extremely poor, and at the same time see how this huge increase in top income inequality can be curbed. In the book we do come up definitely in favour of wealth taxation, in favour of estate taxation if it was politically feasible; it seems to be less politically palatable. So we could start on wealth taxation, start on higher taxation of top income and then find ways to distribute this money affectively over a longer distribution such that the very poor continue to do better and the squeezed middle also finds a way to find a productive place in the society,” she added.

Banerjee said that wealth tax is a very logical tax for India to impose. “Just the value of for example the real estate that many people own is so incredibly high, there has been such an incredible windfall from India’s growth and this essentially stays untaxed. Especially because the tax bracket is narrow, we should think of what are other ways to bring people in the tax umbrella and putting the value of their house as their wealth will already get a bunch of people in. If you look at the value of a house in Delhi, Mumbai or Bengaluru, these are astronomical amounts of money. So, I think that that is a very natural way to go especially because the tax base is thin,” he added.

Banerjee believes that the tax base needs to be expanded. “We always found that in the Budget we always let some people off and that is a silly thing to do because after all the economy is growing and we hope that there are more and more people exactly there and so why wouldn’t we take advantage of that,” he said.

On the personal income tax spurring demand, Banerjee said, “If you want to really stimulate demand, I would have thought to spend on infrastructure which will create more jobs. The big fact about Indian growth has been that infrastructure is the great linkage between the growth of incomes in the top deciles and the growth of incomes in the bottom deciles; that comes from jobs and building houses, building roads, bridges, and that kind of thing actually creates lots of income for people who really will spend the money because it is not that they are sitting on a bunch of cash. I am less convinced that an income tax cut would do that. I would definitely go with more spending approach than a tax approach.”

58-year old Abhijit Banerjee is an alumnus of the University of Kolkata, Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) and Harvard. 46-yeard old Esther Duflo is the youngest recipient of the Nobel Prize for Economics and they both are currently professors at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Power Talk: Automation affects jobs but it doesn’t destroy them, says former BP chief

Automation

Author and former chief executive officer of BP, Lord John Browne on Thursday said that automation affects jobs but it doesn’t destroy jobs. In an interview with CNBC-TV18’s Shereen Bhan, Lord Browne spoke about his new book Make, Think, Imagine.’

Browne said, “The book took three years. We spoke to about 150 people and 120 of which appeared in the book. To make all of this a bit more human and to invite people into different rooms around the world which they might otherwise not get into to see different views of all the things that I have discussed.”

On the future of technology and innovation, he said, “History doesn’t repeat itself but history does rhyme with the future. Engineering and technology helped without any doubt the development of the human being and of societies generally. If we look around today, we see a world which is healthier, people live longer, they are mode educated, the world is less violent and it is better connected. So, a lot of these things will still be in place as we go through a period of de-globalisation at the moment.”

Speaking about automation he said, “Humans have skills that cannot yet be replicated by robots. Every automobile that you order, for some manufacturers it is a different car and so you have to assemble them differently. Manufacturing has come a long way since the beginning of standardised parts and mass production.”

Siemens welcomes corporate tax rate cut, says it will bring more investment

German technology major Siemens AG on Thursday welcomed the government’s decision to cut the corporation tax rate and said it will ensure more investment in the country.

In an interview to CNBC-TV18’s Shereen Bhan, Joe Kaeser, president and chief executive officer, said, “If you have to give advice to the government in India or to the Prime Minister, I would say continue to build the infrastructure.”

Kaeser said, “I believe the most compelling areas definitely is renewable energy, where Siemens is very well established and we continue to serve the markets not just by local employment but also by innovation.”

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We have plans to introduce EV recharging posts at outlets, says Bob Dudley of BP

KV Prasad Jun 13, 2022, 06:35 AM IST (Published)

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Reliance Industries Limited (RIL) and BP have formed a new fuel retail joint venture which will include RIL’s ATF business.

Reliance Industries Limited (RIL) and BP have formed a new fuel retail joint venture which will include RIL’s ATF business. RIL will hold 51 percent and British Petroleum 49 percent in this new fuel retail joint venture. The joint venture will build on RIL’s current fuel network of about 1,400 sites. Over the next five years, the JV will set up 5,500 sites.

CNBC-TV18 spoke to Bob Dudley, Group CEO of BP, who shared his views on the new joint venture.

“There are regulatory approvals that have to happen. I think the closing of this might happen in the early 2020 rather than by the end of 2019 but that is normal, that would actually be normal in most countries around the world,” Dudley said.

The senior BP official has pointed out that Reliance has 1,400 stations which is just over 14 percent of the market share. “So, there are no real impediments here, there is encouragement for competition that will happen and all these formats will change. We will bring in the digital world,  will make sure the fuel is available across the country. Then there is the possible idea to take the fuel straight to the consumer so that they do not have to spend the time going and getting a tank of diesel or petrol themselves. So, all kinds of things will happen and digital will be a big enabler in this,” he noted.

On electric vehicle ecosystem he said, “We are even thinking about advanced mobility. Eventually electric charging of vehicles will happen, and the perfect place to do that is with fuel sales. We are doing that, we are combining that with ultrafast charging in the UK so consumers can come and buy liquid fuel, they can charge their cars and then retailing as well. And the speed of being able to make sure through the Jio system that all the stock levels are there on time, following customer patterns. It is really exciting. India is encouraging fast-charging vehicles as well. It will come in its own time, we will take the experience that we have in other countries with Reliance and that is clearly where we will go. It is not going to be the fastest growing part of it until a number of years down the road.”

Disclosure: Network18, the parent company of CNBCTV18.com, is controlled by Independent Media Trust, of which Reliance Industries is the sole beneficiary.

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Exclusive: My tech portfolio will have a lot of variety, Priyanka Chopra reveals Bumble Fund investment plans

Priyanka Chopra

On the latest episode of CNBC-TV18’s Power Talk, Shruti Mishra is in conversation with Priyanka Chopra Jonas, who has donned many hats, including that of an actress, philanthropist, investor, and entrepreneur.

She recently received the Danny Kaye Humanitarian Award for her charity work across the globe.

Chopra is an investor in dating app Bumble, on which only women can initiate chats in heterosexual matches. She has started an investment vehicle, Bumble Fund, and has so far invested in a coding school apart from the app.

“So far I have invested in two things. One has been an engineering coding school – Holberton School and the other one has been Bumble,” Chopra said.

“Everything else that I am looking at are in so many different verticals that I cannot say that there is just one thing that I look like. My tech portfolio is going to be a little bit like my acting career which is variety,” she added.

She revealed the origins of the female-centric app and her investment in the coding school.

“I was at an event for Bumble in New York and Whitney Wolfe (the co-founder of Bumble) and I started talking about how giving women the opportunity to make the first move not just makes you feel safe and in control for your future but also at the same time in charge and empowered and how that would be so cool for women in India to have that. That is how the conversation started.

“Holberton School — I had told my manager who is also a VC (venture capitalist) about the fact that I was interested in engineering as a kid and if there was something around tech and females in tech and Holberton School is all about women in engineering. So, so far I have been leaning towards sort of female led, female centric investments.”

Chopra, who married Jonas Brothers band member Nick Jonas amid much fanfare last year, said that the dating app has been customised for the Indian audience.

“First USP of Bumble is it is made by women for everyone. The second thing is because we include everyone, we have kept in mind the preferences that women in India might like and have attuned Bumble to that.

“When you think about making the first move the USP being that when a female makes the first move that I think is more powerful in a place where making connections can sometimes be scary especially online when you do not know who you are talking to, so we have taken a lot of those things into consideration and I think Bumble has customised itself for Bumble India, I think that is our USP for sure.”