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KV Prasad Jun 13, 2022, 06:35 AM IST (Published)

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COVID cases have been declining in India. To understand the outlook of the diagnostic laboratories as COVID no longer remains a persistent worry, CNBC-TV18 spoke to Om Manchanda, managing director, Dr Lal PathLabs.

COVID cases have been declining in India. The number of active cases has come down drastically from the levels seen in January when Omicron wave had hit the country.

To understand the outlook of the diagnostic laboratories as COVID no longer remains a persistent worry, CNBC-TV18 spoke to Om Manchanda, managing director, Dr Lal PathLabs.

Manchanda reiterated that there has been a decline in COVID cases. He explained that for growth, the company is focusing on two areas. First, he expects factors such as geographical expansion to bring in growth. Second, he believes that wellness testing will rise.

He said, “There are multiple areas where we are looking at, for growth. One is, of course, geographical expansion as we recently acquired a lab in Mumbai, and we are looking at expanding our footprint in the west zone and we are also expanding our organic footprint in the south of India. Second, there is a hypothesis that wellness testing will tend to go up and if things stabilize, we will tend to focus more on wellness testing.”

Manchanda explained that the company has found it difficult to grow organically in non-core markets as competitive intensity has risen and several players have entered the space. He added that the company may have to resort to inorganic growth in order to combat it.

Also Read: Dr Lal PathLabs Q3: Diagnostic biz likely to see consolidation in next few years, says Om Manchanda

Shedding light on revenue per patient, he said that it has been highly volatile in the last two years owing to the test mix being different in each quarter. He mentioned that the revenue per patient stands at around Rs 700 for non-COVID patients. He stressed that the company has always been dependent on volume growth more than pricing growth, hence expects the revenue per patient to stabilise at current levels.

He said, “It has been highly volatile in the last two years because test mix has been pretty different on a quarter-on-quarter (QoQ) basis. During wave two, we saw COVID alike tests going up where the revenue per patient was very high. Pricing of COVID also has been falling very sharply. Initially, it started with around Rs 4,500 and now it’s hovering around an average of Rs 500-600 per test. So it has all impacted the revenue per patient every quarter.”

“Our stable revenue per patient for non-COVID has been around Rs 700 for many years and as we have always said that we are dependent on volume growth and less on pricing growth. So my sense is it should stabilize at that number if there is no further COVID business,”  said Manchanda.

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COVID testing dips as home testing rises, cases plateaue: Dr Lal PathLabs

KV Prasad Jun 13, 2022, 06:35 AM IST (Published)

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Om Manchanda, MD, Dr Lal PathLabs, on Wednesday, said that as the number of COVID cases have fallen in the last 10 days. As a result, there’s been a decline in COVID testing that’s been seen since last week . He, however, cautioned that positivity remains on the higher side. He also mentioned that this time around, during COVID third wave, different cities are following different curves.

Om Manchanda, MD, Dr Lal PathLabs, on Wednesday, said that as the number of COVID cases have fallen in the last 10 days, there’s been a decline in COVID testing as well that’s been seen since last week . He, however, cautioned that positivity remains on the higher side. He believes that the fall in testing numbers could be due to higher at-home testing, however there’s no way to verify it.

“I think it started rising in the last week of December, then it went up and I am seeing since last week, the trend has started falling, though the positivity is still on higher side. If you compare last 10 days trend, the number of cases that are coming now are definitely on a declining side. So I think one can safely assume that probably it is falling, “he said.

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According to Manchanda, this time around the spike in COVID-19 cases has been short and mild. He added that different cities are following a different COVID curve. He explained that while cities like Delhi and Mumbai are seeing a declining trend in testing, there’s been a spike in testing in the southern cities. Manchanda highlighted that this time around, during the third wave of COVID, only RT-PCR tests saw a spike and not COVID allied tests as was the case during the COVID second wave.

“I think in Delhi and Mumbai, we are clearly seeing a falling trend. This time at-home testing is very high. But probably we don’t have a way to monitor that, at least in our case. This time, whatever little spike happened, that happened mostly on RT PCR, it really didn’t happen on COVID allied tests,” he mentioned.

“This time, I find that different cities are following a different curve while one sees a declining trend in Mumbai and in Delhi, though we are not very strong in south, one sees that in some southern cities, there was a bit of a spike last week. This time, the spike has been very short and also has been a little milder than what it was in wave two,” he explained.

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Manchanda affirmed that the company’s focus continues to be on non-COVID cases. He added that the company will have to delve deeper into its 2-year compounded annual growth rate (CAGR) on non-COVID testing. Additionally, Manchanda mentioned that the company is focused on volume growth. He believes there’s a need to be efficient and compete on the pricing front.

He said, “Our focus will continue to remain on non-COVID testing. However, non-COVID testing has been fluctuating quarter on quarter (QoQ. We are right now in the eighth quarter post pandemic. My sense is the deeper analysis would be post this quarter when we know two years CAGR on non-COVID.”

“We are focused on volume growth. So we are trying our level best to improve efficiencies so that we are able to maintain our margins and still remain competitive on pricing. I am very clear in my mind that we will have to be efficient and compete on pricing,” Manchanda said.

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On technology, he believes that it is entering the diagnostic space as well. He expects a hybrid model of digital and offline testing model in the diagnostics space, going ahead.

“One must realize in healthcare, the core of proposition is the quality. So, you need to trust the brand. Tech is definitely invading healthcare as well and  I don’t think it’s only going to be digital or only going to be the offline model. I think it’s going to be omnichannel strategy that one will have to follow,” he said.

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Diagnostic space takes centre stage; experts discuss heating competition in sector

KV Prasad Jun 13, 2022, 06:35 AM IST (Published)

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Diagnostic sector has been in focus throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Om Manchanda, MD, Dr Lal Pathlabs and Anmol Ganjoo, Pharmaceuticals Research Analyst, JM Financial Institutional Securities discussed how the business has been for the diagnostic companies in FY21 and how the competition is heating up in this sector.

The diagnostic sector has been in focus throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Om Manchanda, MD, Dr Lal Pathlabs and Anmol Ganjoo, pharmaceuticals research analyst, JM Financial Institutional Securities discussed with CNBC-TV18 how the business has been for the diagnostic companies in FY21 and how the competition is heating up in the sector.

Manchanda said that the market is very large and there is space for a lot of players to come in. “I have always been saying that it is good that industry attracts some organised players so that the standards of quality and service go up so there is a level-playing field,” he said.

Pointing to the presence of a large unorganized market, he said some of the countries that are entering the market will further accelerate the shift from unorganized to organized players.

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While the pharmaceutical companies have the advantage of medical science to be successful, one needs to fire on many accounts, Manchanda noted. “While entry barriers in this space are very low, the barriers to scale are very high,” he explained. According to him, the best way to grow the business organically is to expand in continuous markets.

Manchanda believes diagnostics space has always been highly fragmented and unorganized.

“If you trace the history of some of the large global players, they have also taken the route of inorganic plus organic. Our historical trail has been more organic and we have built one single brand and that is how you will see a little bit of lopsidedness in our growth rate,” he stated.

Also Read: Merck’s oral COVD-19 drug on the anvil; Indian partners will price drug post-approval, says MSD India’s Rehan Khan

Meanwhile, Ganjoo said in the last 18 months, the diagnostic companies have moved forward in their growth journey by close to a decade. COVID-19 has pushed the growth trajectory and accelerated it meaningfully, he said, adding that as a consequence, the attractive quotient of these businesses has been noted by the market valuations as well. 

“When companies command such rich value multiples and such high return on invested capitals (ROIC), it is bound to be taken note of multiple players and that is where some form of disruption emerges,” he explained.

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Dr Lal PathLabs expects non-Covid biz to grow 14-15% in FY22; aims for southern, western India expansion

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Dr Lal PathLabs posted a very strong set of Q1 earnings aided by the massive surge in Covid tests during the second wave. The diagnostic service provider reported a nearly five-fold jump in its consolidated net profit to Rs 133.7 crore for the quarter ended June 30. The company had posted a net profit of Rs 28.4 crore for the corresponding period of the previous fiscal. Its consolidated revenue from operations stood at Rs 606.6 crore for the quarter under consideration versus Rs 266 crore in the year-ago period. Non-Covid sales growth however looked tepid at only 3% quarter on quarter. However, with Covid tests having gone down in number due to less cases, CNBC-TV18 spoke with the management of the company to understand what the growth trajectory for the company would look like, going forward.

Om Manchanda, MD, Dr Lal PathLabs said, “We normally track our business in two parts, one is non-Covid business and other is Covid. Since, Covid is an unpredictable business, we are now completely focused on non-Covid business. The way it looks, clearly recovery has taken place when compared to the pre-Covid level, and we continue to see normal growth trajectory in non-Covid business.”

He said that last year saw a sharp fall in non-Covid business but this year growth rate for it would definitely be higher than normal growth, “We will get historical trends for us, we have been growing between 14-15 percent. I think we will track that kind of growth levels,” said Manchanda, adding that Covid segment will be over and above that.

With surge in Covid sales the company had clocked record margins of 31 percent. Manchanda said, “These margin numbers are definitely not sustainable because if one were to look at our P&L, we have a very high operating leverage. So, in any quarter or any year when high growth on topline happens, you see a rise in EBITDA margins but clearly this is a one-off, even that has happened and that is why you see higher margins. I clearly do not see this sustainable. Our margin trajectory should also come back to normal level as in the past when Covid subsides,” he added.

On growth, he mentioned, “The focus would be a combination of both, inorganic and organic. Clearly, North and East for us is an organic play because we have good brand franchise and in the South and West, we have subsidiary. In organic direction, we have recently launched a big reference lab in Bengaluru, we are looking at Mumbai market as well. So, in South and West, we continue to see options for both organic as well as inorganic.”

When asked how the company would use the cash in the books of around Rs 1150 crore, he said, “We have a three-pronged strategy for cash on books- one, we continue to pay regular dividends. Two, we are investing heavily into high-end portfolio business and three would be inorganic growth options.”

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BMC is taking over 80% of COVID beds and 100% of ICU beds at private hospitals; here’s what experts say

India’s COVID-19 cases continue to rise with the majority of cases arising from 6 key states such as Maharashtra, Punjab among others. India recorded 56,211 new cases of coronavirus, a slight dip from the country’s record-breaking tallies over the last three days, data from the health ministry showed on Tuesday (March 29).

In an interview to CNBC-TV18, Om Manchanda, managing director (MD) of Dr Lal PathLabs, spoke at length about how much COVID-19 testing has risen in the north and Viren Shetty, executive director and group COO of Narayana Health, gave a better understanding about the diktat by the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) on allocation of COVID-19 beds.

As the second wave of COVID-19 picks up in Mumbai, the city’s civic body BMC announced taking over beds in private hospitals. According to the new guidelines issued late last night, BMC is taking over 80 percent of the total COVID beds and 100 percent of intensive care unit (ICU) beds at private hospitals.

First, talking about COVID-19 testing, Manchanda said, “A rise in volume has been much lesser in northern India than what we have seen in western India and realisation per test has halved, so the surge is more in volumes than in value of what we have seen in the last quarter.”

Meanwhile, talking about allocation of COVID-19 beds, Shetty said that BMC took proactive steps in reaching out to the hospitals for COVID-dedicated beds.

“The BMC has taken a very good and proactive step about reaching out to all the hospitals and asking them to dedicating the same space that was dedicated for COVID patients earlier,” he said.

Talking about COVID-19 occupancy, he said, “We were overconfident last year looking at the very low numbers coming out in India while it was raging in Europe. I do feel that India will follow the same trajectory as every country does, but if I were to give some hope into this discussion I would say that we are definitely seeing patients being a lot sicker this time.”

However, Shetty said it seems like 2021 is a repeat of last year and next 2 months will be very crucial.

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Services to get impacted if COVID testing price is cut: Dr Lal Pathlabs

Diagnostic companies are on radar given the recent fresh price cap on COVID-19 testing. Om Manchanda, MD of Dr Lal Pathlabs, on Monday said that they will continue to support the government when it comes to testing but pointed out that eventually, the cuts will impact services.

Speaking further in an interview to CNBC-TV18, he said, “Given our scale and portfolio we are managing it now, but any further cut in prices will hurt the entire industry as well as the company.”

He believes there are misconceptions around the pricing of COVID testing.

“There is a general misconception that a kit cost is equal to the cost of doing a test,” he added.

According to him, the non-COVID portfolio is important for the business. “We should see the normal trajectory of non-COVID testing by Q4,” Manchanda said.

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